Short Memories or Rose Colored Glasses

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On this Saturday Morning before the Braves wander up to Port St. Lucie to play the Mets a headline in the Savannah Morning Herald caught my eye. It read Braves want McLouth to regain old form. Now let me be absolutely clear, I’d like nothing better than for Nate McLouth to hit 285, with 15 homers, 65RBI, 50 steals and have an OBP of 375. That – or anything close to that – would be a hell of a season and mean the Braves and Phillies are locked up in a battle for the division. But expecting that kind of season is simply not realistic.Expecting even 2008 numbers mean your memory is short or you are an eternal optimist and have a unicorn living out back

nate1Nate Mclouth is what he has always been a mediocre center fielder with a weak arm who’ll give you  13-16 homers 40 RBI and a .249/.339/.429/.769 slash line. In 2008 he had that once in a player’s lifetime career year. Playing in just 14 more games than 2007 his hits increased 94%, his doubles increased 120%, his RBI increased 147% and he doubled his home run total. Nothing in his career prior to that gave any indication of that kind of consistent production.  On the basis of that the Pirates – not known for shrewd player decisions in during their prior 15 years – decided to give him a nice pay raise and contract extension. April 2009 was a very good month, after that he returned to 2007 levels.  As the Pirates began to regret the contract the Braves were actively seeking seeking a center fielder/leadoff man who could energize them for a post season push. So when the GM sent the Gorkys Hernandez (minors), Jeff Locke (minors) and the talented but erratic Charlie Morton it looked on the surface to be an okay if not outstanding deal.

McLouth’s 2009 numbers as a Brave facing the tougher NL East pitching staffs slumped to a .237/.356/.367/.723 slash line 6 homers and 21 RBI. Allowing for the better pitching these numbers match very closely his pre-2008 career. The 2010 season is probably not a great way to evaluate McLouth. He started slowly, got injured and only returned to his usual self in the late season run after his September call up.

Nate McLouth is by all accounts a nice, hard working guy who genuinely wants to be that 2008 player again. If he gets on base regularly, steals 25+ bases, learns to bunt runners over and reduces his strike outs (he strikes out about 3 times for every 4 hits he gets, a power hitter can live with that, an on-base guy has to do better) he could  be a useful part of a post season chasing team. What you can expect from him is a line closer to 249/.339/.429/.769, 14 and 40 than the 276/.356/.497/.853 , 26 and 94 of 2008. Anyone looking for more should shed their rose colored glasses.

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I love this short story ..fred excellent work done by you ..just keep it up

Hi Bill, Thanks for stopping by
I don't expect Fredi to give him much slack either particularly if Shafer (or Young) shows well this spring. I think they want Shafer playing daily but he may not give them an option if his spring is what he wants it to be.

Hey Fred,

I can't get baseball reference to open. Could you do me a favor and pull Nate's BABIP for 2008, 2010, and career? It may show nothing or it may help understand his other numbers.

Thanks!

Bob

Never mind; I finally got it to open. BABIP doesn't shed a lot of light other than to say Nate hit into really bad luck last year.

Fred, I put his numbers into a little algorithm that I've been refining for a while. It's a little like the Baseball Prospectus stuff, but my own weightings. It comes up a bit more opimistic, but not hugely different: .260/.350/.450. If he really could play CF decently, which I don't think he can (other than range, routes, and a useless arm, he deserves his GG), I'd be OK with this line. But he can't field like a CF or hit like a LF, even with my numbers, so I think he's headed for non-tinder land in his future.

Bob

Sorry I didn't get back sooner, for some reason I wasn't notified of the reply, Fangraphs projection is slightly higher than mine .253/.338/.409/.747, 14 and 67. If he was in the Yankee lineup he'd get closer to your numbers because he'd get a lot of fastballs to hit. Swisher was mediocre before getting to NY but surrounded with all that power he looks like a star; he's not.
If Wren wasn't so invested in him personally he'd be gone now but he sold the boss on the trade and has to live with it.
McLouth is a replacement level player getting paid above average starter money. It was a bad deal, like Kawakami, Farnsworth, Ankiel, Anderson, Norton etc. Were stuck with him for now. Next year he'll get 1 million to play part time in KC or Seattle.

Spring is about optimism, I understand that.I feel each Spring is time for that.I personally think Nate is on a very short leash.Myself, I am a tad more critical Nate has to show more than he has ever shown.Which is probably not going to happen, but as long as he wears the Braves uniform, I will hope he does succeed, but just not expecting it and I am not expecting Fredi to run him out there everyday if he is batting below the McLouth Line .200(like Cox did last year).