Was This The Last We’ve Seen Of Cory Gearrin?

Hello again everyone from that Mecca of Sizzle, that Temple of Temperature, that true vacation Hotspot, the sun, fun capital of the Midwest, the state of Michigan. With a buildup like that, I guess it was good that our heat index hit 105 today!

On the topic of getting hit, the true chart topper today was Cory Gearrin. His outing today, much like the one prior, can only be described as ugly. In fact, I think the Braves will send Cory on his way back to Gwinnett, maybe very soon. Here’s why I feel this way.

First and foremost, the Braves are in a pennant race. There is little room for right handed relievers sporting a well-earned ERA of 7.65. I don’t have all the updated peripherals after tonight’s outing, but this is a case where there is nothing fluky about the ERA. His WHIP is in the range of 2.00 and the bad guys are hitting him for average and power when Gearrin isn’t walking them. Other than a high strikeout rate, there isn’t a lot good to say.

On the other hand, I think Gearrin has the potential to be a serviceable reliever long-term. He has good deception from a sidearm slot and plus velocity for a side-armer. His slider is generally reliable as well. What the Braves can’t afford to have happen is for him to have his confidence shattered.

So, Fredi Gonzalez needs a reliable arm. Gearrin needs to go somewhere and get his head back on straight at the same time he straightens out his problems with his arm. And Frank Wren was quoted as saying that the team has “arms on the farm” to help out in relief. While I think this will mean Arodys Vizcaino soon, I think he’s not quite ready as a reliever yet. While he is Superman, he’s only been pitching in relief for a week. He might need two weeks to leap tall buildings. But there are several other options available. I say pick one and let’s see what we have before the trade deadline gets here.

That’s my take; care to share yours?

Topics: Arodys Vizcaino, Atlanta Braves, Braves, Cory Gearrin, Frank Wren, Fredi Gonzalez

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  • MikeJolly

    Agreed. But Proctor must go!!!!! Now!!!!!

  • MikeJolly

    Agreed. But Proctor must go!!!!! Now!!!!!

  • BobHorton

    I’m with you Mike. But will they eat his contract or continue to delude themselves that velocity automatically equals effectiveness?

    Bob

  • FredOwens

    Gearrin’s ERA is Fredi’s fault. He sent him to face the left handed thrashing machine called the Phillies instead of using a lefty. Gearrin gets shelled ERA goes up. Gearrin has been a one inning guy. His first inning last night was fine then he ran into trouble with control like Beachy did. Pitchers rookies have trouble in Colorado their first time there even old hands, pitchers who rely on breaking balls suffer worst because they flatten out. That too happened to Beachy last night.

    Gearrin shouldn’t have been out there more than an inning but our long man was sent down to get more work so we get a series of short men. Fredi would not have left Moylan out there or put him into the Phillies’ mix master. Linebrink would have had the same result. last night and Proctor shouldn’t be with a major league club at all.

    I suspect Gearrin will be demoted and possibly used in as trade bate. Not because he’s worse than Proctor or Linebrink or even Sherrill; he not. He’ll go because Fredi doesn’t trust him and as a result when he chooses to use him sets him up to fail.

    About 40% of our pen are below replacement level, that’s not their fault they do the best they can. It’s the way the management built the pen this off season; with retreads and has beens.

    Vizcaino is 20 years old with a history of arm trouble. Maybe pitching him on back to-back-to-back nights during the heat of a pennant race won’t destroy his arm before he becomes what he has the tools to be; an ace starter. Is it worth that chance when there are inexpensive options available with post season experience and proven ability? That goes for Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado as well.

    Venters was a starter who couldn;t go deep into games consistently and he became over a few months a superb reliever. Kimbrel has always been a reliever. The future is built around starters not relievers. Bobby had more than 2 dozen closers during that 15 year stretch but kept a solid starting corps.

    I have no idea what leadership will do. I agree Proctor must go, Linebrink too actually. Sherrill when used judiciously has been good enough to keep. Id’ opt for experience and save the future. But of course I wouldn’t have signed that trio in the first place.

  • BobHorton

    Hard to argue much with anything you’ve said, Fred. I thnk Linebrink and Sherrill both have to be used very judiciously to have any value. Like you, I questioned both of those signings, as I thought Sherrill was used up and LInebrink was way overpriced. Honestly, I still feel that way about both of them, though I have been surprised at times about Sherrill. I also agree that Gearrin was a bad choice in Philly; I can’t remember whether I posted that comment here or over at the Coffeeshop. A sidearming righty against those lefties was suicide. What I think spelled doom for Gearrin last night was when he walked the pitcher then hit the next batter, when it was obvious that he was being asked to make them put the ball in play. “Old school” rewards that with the “death penalty” for a rookie reliever, IMO.

    Bob

  • BobHorton

    I’m with you Mike. But will they eat his contract or continue to delude themselves that velocity automatically equals effectiveness?

    Bob

  • FredOwens

    Gearrin’s ERA is Fredi’s fault. He sent him to face the left handed thrashing machine called the Phillies instead of using a lefty. Gearrin gets shelled ERA goes up. Gearrin has been a one inning guy. His first inning last night was fine then he ran into trouble with control like Beachy did. Pitchers rookies have trouble in Colorado their first time there even old hands, pitchers who rely on breaking balls suffer worst because they flatten out. That too happened to Beachy last night.

    Gearrin shouldn’t have been out there more than an inning but our long man was sent down to get more work so we get a series of short men. Fredi would not have left Moylan out there or put him into the Phillies’ mix master. Linebrink would have had the same result. last night and Proctor shouldn’t be with a major league club at all.

    I suspect Gearrin will be demoted and possibly used in as trade bate. Not because he’s worse than Proctor or Linebrink or even Sherrill; he not. He’ll go because Fredi doesn’t trust him and as a result when he chooses to use him sets him up to fail.

    About 40% of our pen are below replacement level, that’s not their fault they do the best they can. It’s the way the management built the pen this off season; with retreads and has beens.

    Vizcaino is 20 years old with a history of arm trouble. Maybe pitching him on back to-back-to-back nights during the heat of a pennant race won’t destroy his arm before he becomes what he has the tools to be; an ace starter. Is it worth that chance when there are inexpensive options available with post season experience and proven ability? That goes for Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado as well.

    Venters was a starter who couldn;t go deep into games consistently and he became over a few months a superb reliever. Kimbrel has always been a reliever. The future is built around starters not relievers. Bobby had more than 2 dozen closers during that 15 year stretch but kept a solid starting corps.

    I have no idea what leadership will do. I agree Proctor must go, Linebrink too actually. Sherrill when used judiciously has been good enough to keep. Id’ opt for experience and save the future. But of course I wouldn’t have signed that trio in the first place.

  • BobHorton

    Hard to argue much with anything you’ve said, Fred. I thnk Linebrink and Sherrill both have to be used very judiciously to have any value. Like you, I questioned both of those signings, as I thought Sherrill was used up and LInebrink was way overpriced. Honestly, I still feel that way about both of them, though I have been surprised at times about Sherrill. I also agree that Gearrin was a bad choice in Philly; I can’t remember whether I posted that comment here or over at the Coffeeshop. A sidearming righty against those lefties was suicide. What I think spelled doom for Gearrin last night was when he walked the pitcher then hit the next batter, when it was obvious that he was being asked to make them put the ball in play. “Old school” rewards that with the “death penalty” for a rookie reliever, IMO.

    Bob

  • FredOwens

    By the time he got to Jiminez he was already beaten by Coors Field. He got Ellis, walked Helton trying not to let him hit one out again, saw a fly ball turn into a LONG fly ball that got Tulo and a ball that maybe would have been caught elsewhere turn into a triple. He was told to walk Stewart admittedly a lefty but hitting only .152 against right handers to pitch to Ianetta hitting .225 (puny but bigger than .152) against them. Trying not to pitch to contact he walks Ianneta then Fowler triples another ball that’s caught anywhere else. He now has no idea how to get anyone out and is mentally done then. Would an old hand have struck out Jiminez? Probably. Proctor would probably have exactly what he did 2 batters later to end the inning. Gearrin is a rookie with 18.1 major league innings, I understand him trying to figure out WTF is going on. The idea that because he made it to the bigs he suddenly knows how to handle all of that is ludicrous.Does that excuse his bad outing? No. But is mitigates any decisions made about him; or it should.

    Take the Philly and Colorado appearances out of his season and his ERA is 3.17, 6 runs in 17 innings with 6 walks and 24 Ks. Fredi’s bullpen management – some of it forced by the way the bullpen is built – led directly to his ERA. He should not have pitched in that situation in Philly and Fredi should have removed him earlier last night, say after the first triple. Outings like this are part of his maturation as a big league pitcher, when rookies are put in that situation it happens.

    Once again I believe Fredi will send him down because for some reason he doesn’t trust him but it isn’t all Gearrin’s fault.

  • FredOwens

    By the time he got to Jiminez he was already beaten by Coors Field. He got Ellis, walked Helton trying not to let him hit one out again, saw a fly ball turn into a LONG fly ball that got Tulo and a ball that maybe would have been caught elsewhere turn into a triple. He was told to walk Stewart admittedly a lefty but hitting only .152 against right handers to pitch to Ianetta hitting .225 (puny but bigger than .152) against them. Trying not to pitch to contact he walks Ianneta then Fowler triples another ball that’s caught anywhere else. He now has no idea how to get anyone out and is mentally done then. Would an old hand have struck out Jiminez? Probably. Proctor would probably have exactly what he did 2 batters later to end the inning. Gearrin is a rookie with 18.1 major league innings, I understand him trying to figure out WTF is going on. The idea that because he made it to the bigs he suddenly knows how to handle all of that is ludicrous.Does that excuse his bad outing? No. But is mitigates any decisions made about him; or it should.

    Take the Philly and Colorado appearances out of his season and his ERA is 3.17, 6 runs in 17 innings with 6 walks and 24 Ks. Fredi’s bullpen management – some of it forced by the way the bullpen is built – led directly to his ERA. He should not have pitched in that situation in Philly and Fredi should have removed him earlier last night, say after the first triple. Outings like this are part of his maturation as a big league pitcher, when rookies are put in that situation it happens.

    Once again I believe Fredi will send him down because for some reason he doesn’t trust him but it isn’t all Gearrin’s fault.

  • BobHorton

    And Gearrin’s back to AAA; Martinez back to Atlanta. Pretty easy one ot call, I guess.

    Bob

  • FredOwens

    yep easy enough sadly for a good young arm who got shafted by the bullpen decision matrix @BobHorton

  • BobHorton

    And Gearrin’s back to AAA; Martinez back to Atlanta. Pretty easy one ot call, I guess.

    Bob

  • FredOwens

    yep easy enough sadly for a good young arm who got shafted by the bullpen decision matrix @BobHorton