Top 3 Atlanta Braves OF Trade Targets


Lately around Braves Nation there has been nothing of substance unless you want to take the Reds rumors as substance. The Winter Meetings were a big disappointment (for the Braves at least) and we still haven’t gotten that big outfield bat that we want.

I feel like I have narrowed down the best out field targets for the Atlanta Braves based on what these teams needs are, and what the Braves can offer them. I am pretty sure you guys will at least agree with one of these players even if you really don’t want any of them. They are all unique in what they would bring to the table and would all benefit the team next year.

I am going to be going over each of these players this week in detail but feel free to debate their strengths and weaknesses in the comments section. I also put them in the order that I would have each player (Swisher being my top choice and Jones my last). Let me know what your initial thoughts are on this.

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  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens No doubt everyone would’ve preferred to trade Lowe instead of Vazquez, but unfortunately he couldn’t correct his previous bad decision due to the lack of interest/willingness to take on salary.

    Even if the Marlins are idiots (why they wouldn’t spend 62 mil on Uggla last year but now spent 106 mil on Reyes boggles my mind), Wren deserves the credit here; he made the trade happen, and no doubt came out victorious.

    I’m not opposed to multiple trades this offseason- that is, trade Jurrjens (and also Prado, if necessary) for prospects, then trade prospects for the OF bat. It’d give much more flexibility– there are plenty more teams willing to trade prospects rather than a quality bat to our liking. And also I think there are plenty more teams willing to trade a OF bat for prospects rather than 2 years of a SP.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens I pretty much agree with you here. However, the bottom line was that the trade turned out much better for the Braves, and therefore I think Wren should get the credit, regardless of if it was the Yankees who were the aggressive ones.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Regarding the Vazquez trade, I pretty much agree with you here. However, the bottom line was that the trade turned out much better for the Braves, and therefore I think Wren should get the credit, regardless of if it was the Yankees who were the aggressive ones.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Regarding Ankiel/Farnsworth trade, I disagree with you here. The Braves received $2 million cash in the trade too, so Farnsworth wasn’t a throw in. In fact, he was just as much the point of the trade, if not more, than Ankiel– Farns was pitching lights-out before the trade (2.42 ERA/1.16 WHIP). I have a soft spot for Farnsworth because he’s a badass and also because his brother was my Latin teacher two years ago. But, there is no denying that he performed horribly under pressure with the Braves (at least the second time through, since his first time in 2005 was lights out). And, sure, we could’ve used a “sports car”, but the sports car would’ve costed significantly more, as opposed to the pickup truck who barely costed anything.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Have you looked at Bartlett’s offensive stats over the past two years? They’re worse than Gonzalez’s, and that saying something!

    I agree that the trade’s purpose was to get Escobar out of town. The return wasn’t fantastic, so I’ll give you that too, but it wasn’t horrible either. The Braves might’ve not necessarily benefited a whole lot, but it was a move that had to be done, so I give him credit for getting a fair return with little leverage.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens No doubt everyone would’ve preferred to trade Lowe instead of Vazquez, but unfortunately he couldn’t correct his previous bad decision due to the lack of interest/willingness to take on salary.

    Even if the Marlins are idiots (why they wouldn’t spend 62 mil on Uggla last year but now spent 106 mil on Reyes boggles my mind), Wren deserves the credit here; he made the trade happen, and no doubt came out victorious.

    I’m not opposed to multiple trades this offseason- that is, trade Jurrjens (and also Prado, if necessary) for prospects, then trade prospects for the OF bat. It’d give much more flexibility– there are plenty more teams willing to trade prospects rather than a quality bat to our liking. And also I think there are plenty more teams willing to trade a OF bat for prospects rather than 2 years of a SP.

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Farnsworth’s tackle of the guy charging the mound effectively ended anyone else trying that on him. You remember 05 differently than I. Though he managed to get three outs in the ninth leading 7-1 in game 2 Game 4 of the NLDS wasn’t good. The Braves enter the bottom of the 8th leading 6-1 A walk and single sent Hudson out Farnsworth in. After getting a ground ball out he walked the bases loaded then on a 2-1 pitch Berkman hit a grand slam. Got 2 more outs still leading 6-5 bottom 9, 2 out, he got behind Brad Ausmus 2-0 then Ausmus homered to left center. Ausmus had 3 homers all year and should never have been able to take Farnsworth out there.

    He did save 10 games against they weren’t exactly powerhouse teams and none had seen him before so he had an advatange. But when the chips were down he folded like a wet napkin, not once but twice.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Can’t disagree w/ ya here. He did choke in the biggest moment in 05, and I definitely remember the longest and saddest game I’ve seen. But, other than that moment, he was more or less lights-out the rest of his first stint with the Braves, and was one of the reasons for the Braves’ success in the regular season. The fact remains, though, that he FAILED under pressure when it mattered most — both times.

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Well actually

    Bartlett 2010 .254/.324/ 350 OPS+ 89 rWAR 1.7 4 hr 47 RBI

    AGon 2010 240/.291/.386 OPS+ 83 rWAR 0.6 23 hr 88 RBI

    Bartlett 2011 .245/.308/.307 OPS+ 76 rWAR 0.1 2 hr 20 RBI

    Agon 2011 .241/.270/.372 OPS+76 rWAR 1.3 15hr-56RBI

    Bartlett 2010 RISP .280 .323 .449

    Man on third less than 2 out .

    Bart 2010 .292 .310 .542

    AGon 2010 .250 .243 .438

    Bart 2011 .450 .414 .600

    Agon 2011 .240 .222 .360

    Man on third 2 out

    Bart 2010 .240 .269 .480

    AGon 2010 .393 .452 .643

    Bart 2011 .250 .379 .333

    Agon 2011 .074 .138 .074

    Oddly enough the abs in each case were about the same.

    I know there are other numbers Bartlett didn’t show the power but that isn’t his game. He hit as well or better in most cases. In 2011 he was significantly better with men on third and 2 out and RISP in general and his OBP was better in all but one situation.

    I’m not knocking Gonzo in 10 he was the equal of Escobar in the second half of the season. I was just making the point that it was more about money than long term thinking and talent. I think that recency affects the view on the GM. A look back is called for. I’ll try to arrange that.

    I enjoyed the discussion. More another day :-)

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @FredOwens@zackflagel11 Sorry I haven’t been in this conversation. I just changed my livefyre settings so I get updates on new comments. Will be more involved now. haha

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Farnsworth’s tackle of the guy charging the mound effectively ended anyone else trying that on him. You remember 05 differently than I. Though he managed to get three outs in the ninth leading 7-1 in game 2 Game 4 of the NLDS wasn’t good. The Braves enter the bottom of the 8th leading 6-1 A walk and single sent Hudson out Farnsworth in. After getting a ground ball out he walked the bases loaded then on a 2-1 pitch Berkman hit a grand slam. Got 2 more outs still leading 6-5 bottom 9, 2 out, he got behind Brad Ausmus 2-0 then Ausmus homered to left center. Ausmus had 3 homers all year and should never have been able to take Farnsworth out there.

    He did save 10 games against they weren’t exactly powerhouse teams and none had seen him before so he had an advatange. But when the chips were down he folded like a wet napkin, not once but twice.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Can’t disagree w/ ya here. He did choke in the biggest moment in 05, and I definitely remember the longest and saddest game I’ve seen. But, other than that moment, he was more or less lights-out the rest of his first stint with the Braves, and was one of the reasons for the Braves’ success in the regular season. The fact remains, though, that he FAILED under pressure when it mattered most — both times.

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Well actually

    Bartlett 2010 .254/.324/ 350 OPS+ 89 rWAR 1.7 4 hr 47 RBI

    AGon 2010 240/.291/.386 OPS+ 83 rWAR 0.6 23 hr 88 RBI

    Bartlett 2011 .245/.308/.307 OPS+ 76 rWAR 0.1 2 hr 20 RBI

    Agon 2011 .241/.270/.372 OPS+76 rWAR 1.3 15hr-56RBI

    Bartlett 2010 RISP .280 .323 .449

    Man on third less than 2 out .

    Bart 2010 .292 .310 .542

    AGon 2010 .250 .243 .438

    Bart 2011 .450 .414 .600

    Agon 2011 .240 .222 .360

    Man on third 2 out

    Bart 2010 .240 .269 .480

    AGon 2010 .393 .452 .643

    Bart 2011 .250 .379 .333

    Agon 2011 .074 .138 .074

    Oddly enough the abs in each case were about the same.

    I know there are other numbers Bartlett didn’t show the power but that isn’t his game. He hit as well or better in most cases. In 2011 he was significantly better with men on third and 2 out and RISP in general and his OBP was better in all but one situation.

    I’m not knocking Gonzo in 10 he was the equal of Escobar in the second half of the season. I was just making the point that it was more about money than long term thinking and talent. I think that recency affects the view on the GM. A look back is called for. I’ll try to arrange that.

    I enjoyed the discussion. More another day :-)

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo dude don’t worry bout it— there’s always gonna be more to discuss!

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @FredOwens@zackflagel11 Sorry I haven’t been in this conversation. I just changed my livefyre settings so I get updates on new comments. Will be more involved now. haha

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo dude don’t worry bout it— there’s always gonna be more to discuss!