Atlanta Braves OF Targets: Carlos Quentin


Well Fred has been the poster boy for trading for Carlos Quentin since… the tread deadline I think. He’s been pushing and pushing for Quentin and at first I was doubtful but Quentin could be a great addition to the team. Here is one of Fred’s many articles on the topic if you’d like to check that out.

Source: sports.yahoo.com

Positives

So the one thing Quentin has going for him is his power. That is his biggest strength and the only real part of his game that stands out. Since his break out season in 2008 he has hit 36, 21, 26, and 24 home runs. His ISO has never been below .219 in that same period and his SLG had never been below .456.

For his entire career Quentin is a .252/.346/.490 hitter with an ISO of .238. Those are pretty good power numbers with an average OBP and below average batting average. He strikes out less than the MLB average but walks less too. You would like a player with power to walk a bit more than that but he likes to swing the bat a lot.

Quentin has played both corner outfield positions but their really isn’t anything to brag about here. I would say defensively he is slightly below average to average.

Greg Walker and Carlos Quentin apparently get along very well and Walker was given a lot of credit for Quentin’s break out season with the White Sox. He would most likely be excited to come and hit under his guidance again. Quentin’s contract is also manageable at $7 million.

Negatives

Injuries. Without a doubt Quentin’s injury history is his biggest weakness. Here are his years/games player since 2008:

  • 2008/130 games
  • 2009/99 games
  • 2010/131 games
  • 2011/118 games

If you look at his entire career, Quentin has never played more than 131 games. This is not something the Braves are going to like and it could be the only reason that he hasn’t been linked in a rumor to Atlanta. Quentin is most definitely on the market and has been linked to a few teams. The Braves already have their own injury prone hitter in Chipper Jones and it would be extremely risky to add another one.

It could work out perfectly with Martin Prado in the mix but that’s only if they decide to get injured at different times. If both Chipper and Quentin were ever on the DL at the same time the Braves would be in a bad situation with a missing left fielder or third baseman.

Other than injuries the only other thing you might want to consider putting on the negative list is the iffy defense but even then I don’t think it is bad enough to really hurt you in left field.

Tags: Atlanta Braves Carlos Quentin Chicago White Sox Jair Jurrjens Trade Rumors

  • zackflagel11

    Another guy on my fantasy team! Definitely like his bat, and his power would definitely fit well here in the ATL. Seems like a perfect fit!

    Quentin has one year left on his contract, and WhiteSox are in some kind of “rebuilding” process, so them keeping Quentin wouldn’t be too smart IMO, given that he would bring in a generally good return via trade. With that being said, if Braves were able to get him without giving up a top SP prospect (much like Bourn and Uggla trades), I’d do it in a heartbeat.

    Although he’d become our starting LF, I’d actually be more inclined to keep Prado given Quentin’s (and obviously Chipper’s) injury history. The Braves could just trade Jurrjens for prospects and free up ~$5 million.

    In summary, if Braves would:

    A) Trade for Quentin without giving up a top pitching prospect

    B) Trade Jurrjens for prospects

    C) Keep Prado

    then I’d totally be a fan of the moves 110%

  • zackflagel11

    Another guy on my fantasy team! Definitely like his bat, and his power would definitely fit well here in the ATL. Seems like a perfect fit!

    Quentin has one year left on his contract, and WhiteSox are in some kind of “rebuilding” process, so them keeping Quentin wouldn’t be too smart IMO, given that he would bring in a generally good return via trade. With that being said, if Braves were able to get him without giving up a top SP prospect (much like Bourn and Uggla trades), I’d do it in a heartbeat.

    Although he’d become our starting LF, I’d actually be more inclined to keep Prado given Quentin’s (and obviously Chipper’s) injury history. The Braves could just trade Jurrjens for prospects and free up ~$5 million.

    In summary, if Braves would:

    A) Trade for Quentin without giving up a top pitching prospect

    B) Trade Jurrjens for prospects

    C) Keep Prado

    then I’d totally be a fan of the moves 110%

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Egggzzzzactleeeee … I suspect they would not want JJ as they are shopping John Danks and he’s the same sort of pitcher time and money wise. Prado isn’t exactly a fit either as their infield looks pretty good for the future. A package that contained players to restock their depleted farm system is more likely to tempt them. Names like Lipka – former number one pick – Schlehuber (a catcher behind Betancort and Mccann) or Ernesto Mejia who can really hit but has Freeman in the way (Heyward if moved back to right) might be tempting to enough. Probably substitute a good (not great) arm for one of them. But worth it if we could get Quentin and extend him a couple of years.

    I researched Quentin’s injuries before recommending him. He began the 2007 season on the disabled list when he was diagnosed with a partial tear of his left labrum during Spring Training. That was more than likely why the Sox were able to get him, he didn’t hit as expected in 2007 after the shoulder injury ; think Heyward. Then in 08 he broke out and was on his way to an MVP type season before the injury. He broke his wrist as a result of slamming his bat with his wrist in frustration after fouling against Cliff Lee. In 09 it was plantar fasciitis which Chipper and Pujols have both suffered from. Not really an injury just aggravated / inflamed tissue in the ball of his foot. This year’s injury was a shoulder hurt when diving for a ball. So he does get injured but he has no recurring trouble like Chipper’s groin or obliques unless the should becomes one over time.He gets hurt because like Heyward he plays hard. I can live with that. Besides, Prado needs 4-500 ABs and will get them between Chipper, Quentin, and Freeman. If signed Punto can play the outfield also.

    I’m sold!~ Go get him LMAO :-D

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Alright! Something we totally agree on! And btw I actually see it more likely than other options– salary works out, Chicago is motivated to move him, and will likely cost less in trade than other OF options. Make the move, Frank!

    Also, now that Punto has signed w/ the RedSox, what other veteran infield/outfield bench bat would interest Braves? Theriot’s defense scares me—not a fan of him. What other quality options are there in FA?

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 Egggzzzzactleeeee … I suspect they would not want JJ as they are shopping John Danks and he’s the same sort of pitcher time and money wise. Prado isn’t exactly a fit either as their infield looks pretty good for the future. A package that contained players to restock their depleted farm system is more likely to tempt them. Names like Lipka – former number one pick – Schlehuber (a catcher behind Betancort and Mccann) or Ernesto Mejia who can really hit but has Freeman in the way (Heyward if moved back to right) might be tempting to enough. Probably substitute a good (not great) arm for one of them. But worth it if we could get Quentin and extend him a couple of years.

    I researched Quentin’s injuries before recommending him. He began the 2007 season on the disabled list when he was diagnosed with a partial tear of his left labrum during Spring Training. That was more than likely why the Sox were able to get him, he didn’t hit as expected in 2007 after the shoulder injury ; think Heyward. Then in 08 he broke out and was on his way to an MVP type season before the injury. He broke his wrist as a result of slamming his bat with his wrist in frustration after fouling against Cliff Lee. In 09 it was plantar fasciitis which Chipper and Pujols have both suffered from. Not really an injury just aggravated / inflamed tissue in the ball of his foot. This year’s injury was a shoulder hurt when diving for a ball. So he does get injured but he has no recurring trouble like Chipper’s groin or obliques unless the should becomes one over time.He gets hurt because like Heyward he plays hard. I can live with that. Besides, Prado needs 4-500 ABs and will get them between Chipper, Quentin, and Freeman. If signed Punto can play the outfield also.

    I’m sold!~ Go get him LMAO :-D

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 I don’t know, if we are trading just prospects for Quentin we would have a baren farm system as far as positional players. If we aren’t giving up one of the top pitching prospects like you suggested the White Sox would probably be interested in Simmons/Salcedo/Terdo. I wouldn’t want to trade those guys for a one year rental who also gets injured on a regular basis but that just me…

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo Yes…but I would not expect it to cost anywhere near that much. A combo of Simmons/Salcedo/Terdo is WAY too much for one year of Quentin- even 2 of those I’d have a hard time parting with.

    I’d expect something like Lipka (tools CF with potential), Hoover (likely a top 5 prospect in any other organization), and lower level prospect to get it done.

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens Alright! Something we totally agree on! And btw I actually see it more likely than other options– salary works out, Chicago is motivated to move him, and will likely cost less in trade than other OF options. Make the move, Frank!

    Also, now that Punto has signed w/ the RedSox, what other veteran infield/outfield bench bat would interest Braves? Theriot’s defense scares me—not a fan of him. What other quality options are there in FA?

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 Didn’t mean all of them. I mean I don’t want to trade ANY of them. They would (should) ask for one of them and if so I wouldn’t do it. Not for 1 year of Quentin.

  • zackflagel11

    My B. And I agree as well. If the Braves can get Quentin, without trading those three guys, Bethancourt, or their top young pitchers, I’d deem the trade a success from the very second it’s announced. What’s nice to know is that Wren is adamant on keeping the important young players, so I don’t think we have to worry too much about it.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 Agreed.

  • zackflagel11

    Hypothetical question: Suppose all of the OF bats the Braves like would require a top prospect (pitching or hitting) in return.

    Would you rather see the Braves:

    A) pony up for the quality OF we like

    B) settle for someone who’s not as good but doesn’t require top prospect

    C) sign Beltran as a FA for around $8 mil per year for 1-3 years

    D) stand still and not make a move

  • FredOwens

    @CarlosCollazo@zackflagel11 The white sox ss isn’t their problem now. Alexi is signed through 2017 so I doubt Simmons is the guy. Konerko is getting older Mejia wold solve that for them. Beckam has been jerked all around and will be given time to settle at second I think . They may seek Prado for third or second and if they threw in Lillibridge I might do that. He became a lot better hitter in Chicago under Walker and always played SS ok played outfield at least as well as Prado. So maybe there’s a Quentin/Lillibridge for Prado Meji and Lipka or Schlehuber or an arm A- B+ type I think the deal is there and could be done.

    Z ask what backup SS now and really there is nothing out there that does what the GM said he wanted thus Lillibridge seems good. If not Andres Blanco is interesting when he gets at bats he hits from the left side, right side not at all. If your masochistic here’s the FA list for SS.

    Yuniesky Betancourt – can’t hit throws wildly

    Andres Blanco – fields well hits sometimes mostly lefty

    Orlando Cabrera No longer has SS range

    Ronny Cedeno Hits like a pitcher but a slick

    Alex Cora Getting long in the tooth and not a real SS

    Craig Counsell Even longer in the tooth

    Jeff Keppinger Not really a SS but he can hit

    Edgar Renteria Old

    Ryan Theriot bad glove but hits a bit

    Omar Vizquel Oddly enough though he’s older than dirt not a bad option but no

    Jack Wilson – seen Jack, Like Jack if we could get him to remember how to hit we’re in…but he probably won’t Seattle killed his bat

    Lillibridge looks better every minute actually. . .

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11

    Adam Jones (A)

    Beltran for 8 2 yrs with team option maybe otherwise nope

    Otherwise start and hope we do something at the deadline

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens you prefer Adam Jones to Carlos Quentin if their costs (in prospects) are equal?

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens and agree with your points on Lillibridge– he definitely seems like best of those options at utility

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 I don’t know, if we are trading just prospects for Quentin we would have a baren farm system as far as positional players. If we aren’t giving up one of the top pitching prospects like you suggested the White Sox would probably be interested in Simmons/Salcedo/Terdo. I wouldn’t want to trade those guys for a one year rental who also gets injured on a regular basis but that just me…

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11@FredOwens I do simply because Jones is not injury prone and not a one year rental. He could also improve a bit more.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 A only if the OF is under a multi year deal.

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo Yes…but I would not expect it to cost anywhere near that much. A combo of Simmons/Salcedo/Terdo is WAY too much for one year of Quentin- even 2 of those I’d have a hard time parting with.

    I’d expect something like Lipka (tools CF with potential), Hoover (likely a top 5 prospect in any other organization), and lower level prospect to get it done.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 Didn’t mean all of them. I mean I don’t want to trade ANY of them. They would (should) ask for one of them and if so I wouldn’t do it. Not for 1 year of Quentin.

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo@FredOwens A (Adam Jones) would be my second choice. I think the Braves should take advantage of small market for Beltran. He’d cost same amount of $$ but no prospects, and would contribute lots offensively if he stays healthy. He has a good batting average, takes a lot of walk at the plate, has good power numbers as well, switch-hits (imagine Beltran and Chipper together–two switch hitters), plays solid defense in LF, can play CF if needed, has KILLED the Braves in the past, and also the Braves were known to like him at last year’s trade deadline. This big-name signing would also likely bring more fans to the park, which was discussed in Fred’s article yesterday. Beltran would be a perfect fit in my opinion– only negative being he is injury-prone. A 1 or 2 year deal that’s not too expensive should work out well IMO.

  • zackflagel11

    My B. And I agree as well. If the Braves can get Quentin, without trading those three guys, Bethancourt, or their top young pitchers, I’d deem the trade a success from the very second it’s announced. What’s nice to know is that Wren is adamant on keeping the important young players, so I don’t think we have to worry too much about it.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 Agreed.

  • zackflagel11

    Hypothetical question: Suppose all of the OF bats the Braves like would require a top prospect (pitching or hitting) in return.

    Would you rather see the Braves:

    A) pony up for the quality OF we like

    B) settle for someone who’s not as good but doesn’t require top prospect

    C) sign Beltran as a FA for around $8 mil per year for 1-3 years

    D) stand still and not make a move

  • FredOwens

    @CarlosCollazo@zackflagel11 The white sox ss isn’t their problem now. Alexi is signed through 2017 so I doubt Simmons is the guy. Konerko is getting older Mejia wold solve that for them. Beckam has been jerked all around and will be given time to settle at second I think . They may seek Prado for third or second and if they threw in Lillibridge I might do that. He became a lot better hitter in Chicago under Walker and always played SS ok played outfield at least as well as Prado. So maybe there’s a Quentin/Lillibridge for Prado Meji and Lipka or Schlehuber or an arm A- B+ type I think the deal is there and could be done.

    Z ask what backup SS now and really there is nothing out there that does what the GM said he wanted thus Lillibridge seems good. If not Andres Blanco is interesting when he gets at bats he hits from the left side, right side not at all. If your masochistic here’s the FA list for SS.

    Yuniesky Betancourt – can’t hit throws wildly

    Andres Blanco – fields well hits sometimes mostly lefty

    Orlando Cabrera No longer has SS range

    Ronny Cedeno Hits like a pitcher but a slick

    Alex Cora Getting long in the tooth and not a real SS

    Craig Counsell Even longer in the tooth

    Jeff Keppinger Not really a SS but he can hit

    Edgar Renteria Old

    Ryan Theriot bad glove but hits a bit

    Omar Vizquel Oddly enough though he’s older than dirt not a bad option but no

    Jack Wilson – seen Jack, Like Jack if we could get him to remember how to hit we’re in…but he probably won’t Seattle killed his bat

    Lillibridge looks better every minute actually. . .

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11

    Adam Jones (A)

    Beltran for 8 2 yrs with team option maybe otherwise nope

    Otherwise start and hope we do something at the deadline

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens you prefer Adam Jones to Carlos Quentin if their costs (in prospects) are equal?

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens and agree with your points on Lillibridge– he definitely seems like best of those options at utility

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11@FredOwens I do simply because Jones is not injury prone and not a one year rental. He could also improve a bit more.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @zackflagel11 A only if the OF is under a multi year deal.

  • zackflagel11

    @CarlosCollazo@FredOwens A (Adam Jones) would be my second choice. I think the Braves should take advantage of small market for Beltran. He’d cost same amount of $$ but no prospects, and would contribute lots offensively if he stays healthy. He has a good batting average, takes a lot of walk at the plate, has good power numbers as well, switch-hits (imagine Beltran and Chipper together–two switch hitters), plays solid defense in LF, can play CF if needed, has KILLED the Braves in the past, and also the Braves were known to like him at last year’s trade deadline. This big-name signing would also likely bring more fans to the park, which was discussed in Fred’s article yesterday. Beltran would be a perfect fit in my opinion– only negative being he is injury-prone. A 1 or 2 year deal that’s not too expensive should work out well IMO.

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 As a power corner bat I prefer Quentin. I’d do JJ straight for Quentin if I could extend him and certainly for Q and Lillibridge. But from the “what if we don’t sign Bourn” (which seems likely with Boras as his agent) side of the picture Jones is (is spite of the ultimately zero reliablity rating) is a very good center fielder and would be under control for 2 years. We have a relationship with CAA (his agents) that might allow an extension more easily than Bourn. He’s younger, has shown corner outfield power (Bill James project 24 hr 84 RBI from Jones, 27-88 from Q ) and is fast. His GB% is good and LD% acceptable – used to be better and could be again. He does strike out more and walk less but that ‘s been in a Baltimore lineup with little pop that got him into some bad habits. If he could cut down on K% and increase BB% he would resemble Matt Kemp (I said resemble not duplicate) closely. Imagine an outfield of Heyward, Bourn and Jones with Freeman, Uggla Simmons Prado (or Chase Headley) McCann and our pitching. If Heyward ever stops doing his Magellan imitation in right, nothing drops out there. Jones has been mostly a 2 hole hitter so a lineup might look like:

    Bourn (L)

    A Jones (R)

    Freeman (L)

    Uggla (R)

    C Jones (S)

    McCann (L)

    Heyward (L)

    Pastornicky (R)

    That looks pretty impressive to me. Both men at the top can fly and the next 5 have 20+ HR potential (well Chipper not so much and Prado is an 18 homer guy), an extra base pedigree and make a pitcher think a couple of times about who he wants to pitch to. Not much rest in there.

    With Q it would look more like

    Bourn (L)

    Heyward (L)

    Quentin (R)

    McCann (L)

    Uggla (R)

    C Jones (S)/Prado (R)

    Freeman (L)

    Pastornicky (R)

    I can live with either, I really really like Quentin as a Brave, really. . . however Jones has other attributes that are appealing. Quentin would be easier to sign long term than Jones or Bourn but we have nothing close in the system for CF/leadoff. I’m conflicted as anyone can tell but pragmatically I’d opt for Jones. After all we need the Jones boys back even if it’s Adam instead of Andruw. :-) Which do you like best?

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11@CarlosCollazo I could live with Beltran if we retain Prado, it’s for 2 years with a mutual option and a fair price (8-9?). I love switch hitters with pop from both side – wanted Berkman last year – and always liked Beltran. He LOVES hitting in the two slot as well solving that spot for us. But as predicted after Cuddyer and Willingham (3 @ 21 is MUCH lower than I expected) sign Beltran jumps to the top of the list again with Boston, Cards, Rox and maybe the Phillies (under the table and I heard a sniff that the Rangers might look to trade an outfielder for a pitcher and replace with him) are after him. That means that his 15/yr for 3 is more likely than 10 though 10 is possible I suppose. heck Cody Ross wants nearly that much .

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11 As a power corner bat I prefer Quentin. I’d do JJ straight for Quentin if I could extend him and certainly for Q and Lillibridge. But from the “what if we don’t sign Bourn” (which seems likely with Boras as his agent) side of the picture Jones is (is spite of the ultimately zero reliablity rating) is a very good center fielder and would be under control for 2 years. We have a relationship with CAA (his agents) that might allow an extension more easily than Bourn. He’s younger, has shown corner outfield power (Bill James project 24 hr 84 RBI from Jones, 27-88 from Q ) and is fast. His GB% is good and LD% acceptable – used to be better and could be again. He does strike out more and walk less but that ‘s been in a Baltimore lineup with little pop that got him into some bad habits. If he could cut down on K% and increase BB% he would resemble Matt Kemp (I said resemble not duplicate) closely. Imagine an outfield of Heyward, Bourn and Jones with Freeman, Uggla Simmons Prado (or Chase Headley) McCann and our pitching. If Heyward ever stops doing his Magellan imitation in right, nothing drops out there. Jones has been mostly a 2 hole hitter so a lineup might look like:

    Bourn (L)

    A Jones (R)

    Freeman (L)

    Uggla (R)

    C Jones (S)

    McCann (L)

    Heyward (L)

    Pastornicky (R)

    That looks pretty impressive to me. Both men at the top can fly and the next 5 have 20+ HR potential (well Chipper not so much and Prado is an 18 homer guy), an extra base pedigree and make a pitcher think a couple of times about who he wants to pitch to. Not much rest in there.

    With Q it would look more like

    Bourn (L)

    Heyward (L)

    Quentin (R)

    McCann (L)

    Uggla (R)

    C Jones (S)/Prado (R)

    Freeman (L)

    Pastornicky (R)

    I can live with either, I really really like Quentin as a Brave, really. . . however Jones has other attributes that are appealing. Quentin would be easier to sign long term than Jones or Bourn but we have nothing close in the system for CF/leadoff. I’m conflicted as anyone can tell but pragmatically I’d opt for Jones. After all we need the Jones boys back even if it’s Adam instead of Andruw. :-) Which do you like best?

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11@CarlosCollazo I could live with Beltran if we retain Prado, it’s for 2 years with a mutual option and a fair price (8-9?). I love switch hitters with pop from both side – wanted Berkman last year – and always liked Beltran. He LOVES hitting in the two slot as well solving that spot for us. But as predicted after Cuddyer and Willingham (3 @ 21 is MUCH lower than I expected) sign Beltran jumps to the top of the list again with Boston, Cards, Rox and maybe the Phillies (under the table and I heard a sniff that the Rangers might look to trade an outfielder for a pitcher and replace with him) are after him. That means that his 15/yr for 3 is more likely than 10 though 10 is possible I suppose. heck Cody Ross wants nearly that much .

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens@CarlosCollazo Between Adam Jones/ Quentin/ Swisher, I like Quentin best. He’s a great fit and won’t cost as much as the other two. Jones is too much like Prado IMO, and wouldn’t be a worthwhile upgrade, if he is in fact an upgrade (I would argue that Prado is actually better). Quentin’s is definitely my number 1 choice as far as trade options go.

    However, I still think Beltran is the best option. I don’t expect the RedSox (denied interest), Cardinals (won’t spend money), Giants (got Melky), Yankees (why need him), Rangers (have enough god OFs), Rockies (will probably get Cuddyer), Phillies (really?) or any non-contending team to have interest in him. The Braves could obviously use him, and I think with a very shallow market, the Braves could get really lucky and take advantage.

    Pop Quiz: Of all the stadiums that Beltran has not called home (yet!), which one has he hit the most home runs in throughout his career?

  • zackflagel11

    @FredOwens@CarlosCollazo Between Adam Jones/ Quentin/ Swisher, I like Quentin best. He’s a great fit and won’t cost as much as the other two. Jones is too much like Prado IMO, and wouldn’t be a worthwhile upgrade, if he is in fact an upgrade (I would argue that Prado is actually better). Quentin’s is definitely my number 1 choice as far as trade options go.

    However, I still think Beltran is the best option. I don’t expect the RedSox (denied interest), Cardinals (won’t spend money), Giants (got Melky), Yankees (why need him), Rangers (have enough god OFs), Rockies (will probably get Cuddyer), Phillies (really?) or any non-contending team to have interest in him. The Braves could obviously use him, and I think with a very shallow market, the Braves could get really lucky and take advantage.

    Pop Quiz: Of all the stadiums that Beltran has not called home (yet!), which one has he hit the most home runs in throughout his career?

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11@CarlosCollazo Withotu checking the obvious answer is the TED :-) I hope I made clear that I like Quentin better for the immediate need but projecting a loss of Bourn he’s the more logical guy. He is a significant improvement defensively in the outfield over Prado, he’s faster, and has more power. His decline in OBP vs. lefties I put down to a change in his approach – trying to hit for power instead of just hit. His lugging has gone up. I don’t think they’ll budge for what Wren will give in any event.

    I do believe Beltran will end up elsewhere. The Braves are scared of his legs and he makes us older not younger.If Wren thinks he can sign Bourn he goes for a power bat (Quentin like) but if he thinks he can’t he looks for someone who can play center. he’s been nibbling at those guys already.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @FredOwens@zackflagel11 I like the idea of adding Beltran a lot but his injury issues are a bit of a concern. I would prefer him over Quentin because he is a switch hitter has a better track record and could fill the 2-hole like you guys mentioned. I like Jones a lot more than Zack does. Right with Fred as far as my opinion on Adam Jones.

  • FredOwens

    @zackflagel11@CarlosCollazo Withotu checking the obvious answer is the TED :-) I hope I made clear that I like Quentin better for the immediate need but projecting a loss of Bourn he’s the more logical guy. He is a significant improvement defensively in the outfield over Prado, he’s faster, and has more power. His decline in OBP vs. lefties I put down to a change in his approach – trying to hit for power instead of just hit. His lugging has gone up. I don’t think they’ll budge for what Wren will give in any event.

    I do believe Beltran will end up elsewhere. The Braves are scared of his legs and he makes us older not younger.If Wren thinks he can sign Bourn he goes for a power bat (Quentin like) but if he thinks he can’t he looks for someone who can play center. he’s been nibbling at those guys already.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ CarlosCollazo

    @FredOwens@zackflagel11 I like the idea of adding Beltran a lot but his injury issues are a bit of a concern. I would prefer him over Quentin because he is a switch hitter has a better track record and could fill the 2-hole like you guys mentioned. I like Jones a lot more than Zack does. Right with Fred as far as my opinion on Adam Jones.