Sep 20, 2013; Chicago, IL, USA; Atlanta Braves infielder Dan Uggla bats during their game against the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field. Mandatory Credit: Matt Marton-USA TODAY Sports

Braves Cubs Live Thread: Get It In Gear!


Get It In Gear!

Ever driven with somebody trying to operate a stick, no clue how to, and they’re grinding those gears with a gut wrenching, metal grinding sound that’s just on the verge of making you open your car door and do a stuntman, belly roll across a hard pavement, strawberries and all!?  If I painted a good picture there of the pain of that kind of experience, then perhaps you’ll get the picture of the kind of pain I’ve been suffering lately watching the Atlanta Braves try and fail to get themselves in gear.

They seem eternally stuck in 1st gear, or 2nd at best, and the transmission’s about to blow!  Unfortunately, the fix isn’t a simple trip to a local mechanic, but something more tangible, something many armchair managers such as myself think we know the answer to, but most if not all of which manager Fredi Gonzalez, Frank Wren and company, seem to disagree with.

We editors, and pretty much all of the staff here at Tomahawk Take, have written extensively of late about the Braves’ woes and  what could be done to fix the problems.  Solutions have been proffered, analyzed and either discarded or argued over ad nauseum, and unfortunately we don’t have the front office’s ears, nor would they be likely to listen if we did.

I think I even heard a fan say the whole team should go a month without changing their underwear.
Proffered solutions have included everything from minor or major tweaks to the lineup (something which I remind everyone Fredi already does pretty extensively), multiple ins-and-outs to the pitching rotation, jettisoning Dan Uggla and B.J. Upton, to an odd assortment of other possible solutions.  I think I even heard a fan say the whole team should go a month without changing their underwear.  Wait a second now, I played a lot of baseball in my younger years, have been there and done that, and I DO NOT recommend that as a solution!

The fact is, no one knows what will get the Braves’ sticks shifted back into the proper gear, but we can have some hope even if we don’t have any sound or sure solutions.  My hope is that as the Chicago Cubs roll into Turner Field in Atlanta tonight to face our beloved  but sour Braves, the Braves can take advantage of a struggling Chicago offense!

As our own Brandon Woodworth pointed out in his Series Preview, the Cubbies are having a tough time offensively, giving little run support to a pitching staff that is pretty good (minus their bullpen), arguably as good as that of Atlanta.  It could be a question of who struggles worse during the series, but if the Braves will play like they’re capable offensively, and pitch like their able, a series win or even a sweep is not entirely impossible.  Certainly, a sweep would go a LONG way to building morale, getting this slump out of the Braves’ heads, and getting them back in gear!  That’s my hope, and my only real solution at the moment.  It could be the best solution – just this simple idea of playing hard, winning, and letting that sink in and catch on.  I know, baseball isn’t that simple, but then neither is finding a quick fix.

 

Game 1 Details

When? 7:35 PM EST, Friday, May 9th

Where? Fox SportSouth

Probables:  Jason Hammel (4-1, 2.43 ERA) vs Julio Teheran (2-2, 1.80 ERA)

 

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  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Precarious lead. Deja Vu

    • fireboss

      Fortunately the Cubs bullpen buffet is ahead

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Well said.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Last double-digit win for the Braves ? April 13th against the Washington Nationals. Only double digit score of 2014 so far

    • Mushy Peas

      And they lost the Hank Aaron home opener on my birthday. Was not happy!

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        April 8!

        • Mushy Peas

          Yup! I may as well tell you my age: I’m 28 days younger than our beloved Dan Uggla.

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            That don’t help me. Personal things about players I don’t keep up with, just baseball numbers and toolset

          • Mushy Peas

            I don’t either. The only reason I know Dan’s is because we are the same age separated by less than a month. I couldn’t tell you anyone else’s.

  • Mushy Peas

    Evan needs to keep his throwing hand behind his back. Though that might affect his center of gravity and he’d tip right over.

    • fireboss

      he just needs to grow more beard to counteract the weight shift. Should take him an inning or two

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    test

    • fireboss

      what’s the square toot of 9?

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        hehe that many K’s and you’re out!

        • fireboss

          Okay you passed the test

  • fireboss

    Okay Julio stop whining we got you two runs, what more do you want?

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Cheese

      • fireboss

        They’ve swung at plenty tonight

      • Mushy Peas

        Queso!

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Gesundheit

  • fireboss

    Gotta work on my Rispies box tonight..

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Snap, Crackle, Popout

      • fireboss

        exactly just gotta pick the players Uggla, ??, Simmons

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Well I’d say Simba on the popouts, but he’s cut that out! Thank God!

          • fireboss

            Yea crackle has me at a loss…

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            anyone crack their knuckles alot… hrmmmm ?

          • fireboss

            I’m thinking swish, dribble plop… Uggla, ?? , BJ

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Ya’ll see Tom Hart (I don’t think he meant to) kind of imply in the pre-game interview with Hinske, that it was who he knew with all the teams he’s played for that got him the job with Chicago, and not his talent? Hinkse looked at him sideways and grinned, and played it off. Total foot in mouth.

    • fireboss

      MLB TV doesn’t give me Braves live

      • Mushy Peas

        With mlb extra innings I don’t get any pre or post game stuff. As soon a the last out is recorded and its officially announced that said team has won, it cuts off to a green screen with a giant GOODNIGHT! on it….even if its a day game.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Yeah, why give you value for your dollar? Afterall, it’s MLB

          • Mushy Peas

            You guys are always ripping on Chip. I’ll take Chip anyday, everyday over Santangelo. He is absolutely insufferable.

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            I give equal amounts of rip to Joe :)

          • Mushy Peas

            I have to endure him every time the Nats play the Braves because of those stupid blackouts.

          • fireboss

            Santangelo is awful. Chip is annoying, inaccurate and hasn’t learned a thing after all these years. Better than some but still way down my list of annoucers

        • fireboss

          Yea mine says The Game has Ended

  • Mushy Peas

    CJ’s front shoulder is flying open.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    What was the trivia. Missed it

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      something about stolen bases

      • fireboss

        Last cub to lead the NL in stolen bases

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          I dunno Maybe Sandberg

          • fireboss

            Nah I grew up in a Cubs family and I don’t ever recall one winning that. I’ll have to cheat here but I;m sure Chip is wrong

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            What did chip guess, off his cheat sheet?

          • fireboss

            I don;t recall but the answer is Stan Hack 1939

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            If that’s true, relatively 1 out of a million are going to know that.

          • fireboss
  • Mushy Peas

    Nats are in Oakland tonight. Hope the A’s can help us out. Fister vs Milone. Milone is 0-3 on the year.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Milone has gotten little support, and his ERA balooned off his last 6 run loss to the sox. He’s a typical A’s pitcher… better than the traditionalists can see.

      • Mushy Peas

        Yeah, I’m not as familiar with him as the others. Curious to see how Fister does.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Be happy if Doug totally hiccups! :)

  • Mushy Peas

    Julio! Julio! Julio!

  • fireboss

    nice opiece on Kings of Kaufman about how the Royals badly need a 2B backup for Infante…I’ll send then Dan and a box of chocolates

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Ahh Infante. KoK might choke on that chocolate Fred.

      • fireboss

        It’s supposed to remind the brain of sex. I’m hoping it distracts them

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          hehe. I’ve said it, I’ll stick to it.. Dan will go nowhere. If I’m wrong, I’ll be glad to be wrong.

          • fireboss

            Oh I know, I don;t have that much chocolate to give away

  • fireboss

    Jason gets a hit as Hamels tires

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      108 pitches

      • fireboss

        exactly

    • Mushy Peas

      I leave the room and JHey gets a hit. I guess I need to make that a ritual from now on.

  • fireboss

    Votto walks off a win in Cincy

  • Mushy Peas

    Phillies 2 Mets 1 bottom of the 6th

    • fireboss

      Phillies Mutts, an exercise is winning 4th place

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Mets will rally

  • Mushy Peas

    Jose Reyes one hit away from the cycle. I don’t know which he needs. Probably a 3b.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Remember what was it…2011 when he couldn’t miss? What the heck happened to Jose?

      • fireboss

        Injury. That’s what happens to a lot of speedsters

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          His bat has died inexplicably beyond any injury he had from what I’ve read.

          • fireboss

            This year hasn’t been kind but 2012 and 2013 his numbers were good

      • Mushy Peas

        The Jays have been hitting well.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Yeah Canadians ain’t all bad ;)

          • Mushy Peas

            Too bad there is no one there to see it. I swear that all the people there could shsre a bus ride home.

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            ahhhh they don’t know aBOAT basebawl

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            I’ll say this though… Toronto is a lovely city, as cities go

          • fireboss

            And their Mayor will crack up up… or is that bring up crack to you.. I always confuse that

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            hehe Cubs hometown, Jays hometown.. something in the water?

          • fireboss

            Illinois has a prison wing reserved for governors and congress critters. My home state is famous for few things mostly Lincoln and Capone and the Daley monarchy in Chi town

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Most states should if truth were known, they just didn’t get caught.

          • fireboss

            Ours are just so cock sure of themselves, they believe they are untouchable (no pun intended but it was pretty good )

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            hehe not NESSessary to apologize ;)

          • Mushy Peas

            Probably a diplomatic approach with crack up your crack.

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Is that like the old joke… I heard Oprah got arrested! For what? 50 pounds of crack up her dress!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    If I won the GA lottery, I’d retire and live in a van down by the Turner ;)

    • fireboss

      I’d just rent a suite and live at the Ted during home games

    • Mushy Peas

      If I won, I’d arrested for fraud.

      • Mushy Peas

        But at least I’d be in Georgia.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Redneck extradition

          • Mushy Peas

            Funny when I was living in Michigan, I could never convince them I wasn’t southern, though to them, Ohio is considered southern. When I lived in Texas, they couldn’t figure out where I was from because of the accent, but .generally, I was considered a yankee. Apparently, the mid-atlantic region doesn’t exist.

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            hehe no, they’re just not too bright in Michigan lol

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Okay, I am not familiar with Roscup at all I have to say… hrmmm

  • fireboss

    Overreacting Brave @OvrreactingBrav

    ROSSCUP HALF FULL OR EMPTY?

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      he should have kept that to himself

      • fireboss

        I know A cups, B Cups C Cups D cups but is a Ross Cup what Rachel had

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          pardon?

          • fireboss

            Friends Ross and Rachel.. Oh never mind :P

  • Mushy Peas

    Cmon CJ

  • Mushy Peas

    That’s better!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    That white boxhead lab looks just like mine! Oh wait, you guys are on MLB.tv

  • fireboss

    And we’ll tell you who the next Cubs pitcher will be after we see who draws the short straw

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      hehe and we get Rondon, the only guy they can rely on!

      • fireboss

        Renteria thought Justin was coming up

  • Mushy Peas

    CJ!!!

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      I like that you don’t use CJ2.0 Respect!

      • Mushy Peas

        Oh god. I don’t who came up with that, but they’re an idiot.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Agreed. By default, any 3B would be a mere shadow compared to Chipper, but every player deserves a 1.0!

          • Mushy Peas

            To me, Chipper is Chipper. Not CJ or RealCJ or whatever. Chris is just Chris or CJ for short. I believe they mostly referred to him as CJ when he was with Houston

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Yeah, he’s always had that moniker

  • fireboss

    an infield hit and a SB in the same night… Somebody give CJ a PED test

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      no he just used PEZ… wish I had a Braves Pez dispenser

      • fireboss

        Never seen one, does it have Bobby Cox’s head on it

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          I’m not sure there has ever been one, but it would be cool. Collected them when I was a tyke, millenia ago

  • fireboss

    Bj doin what BJ does then gets upset about it

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      hehe masking tape on his glasses… get it, get it?

      • fireboss

        yep

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          such enthusiasms.. plural in honor of DeNiro in the aforementioned “untouchables”. Relic of a reference there.

  • Mushy Peas

    Another one run game, but I’ll take it. Still laughing about Chris swiping a base. Hope Kimbrel had his 7th inning coffee.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Seems Chris certainly did, espresso

  • fireboss

    Hack won it in 38 too

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      They give the answer?

      • fireboss

        Yea and Chip went silent

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Your odd baseball or Cubbie historian might have known that. About it, and I am a junior historian myself.

          • fireboss

            I had no idea, had to look it up

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Dang I cant remember the comment record, but we’re getting close for only 3 attendees, commenting attendees anyhoo

  • fireboss

    Kimbrel’s FB location wanders

    • Mushy Peas

      Effectively wild…..I hope.

      • fireboss

        Not so much no Tie game

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Depends on variations in the earth’s axis and rotational pull on any given night.

  • Mushy Peas

    Can I use an expletive?

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Why the hell not?

    • fireboss

      Yes you may

  • Mushy Peas

    Poor Teheran. My goodness.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Craig will buy him a steak dinner at Ruth’s Chris

  • fireboss

    Kimbrel has to locate that fastball otherwise they sit on the curve

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      I’ve noticed his arm slot drifting much more this year

      • fireboss

        He tried to add a pitch this off season and it’s affected everything

      • Mushy Peas

        The Braves aren’t giving him regular save opportunities.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          I think he’s got some arm “tiredness” too

          • fireboss

            he’s under his fastball

          • Mushy Peas

            He has been alot and I’ve noticed he’s throwing alot of first pitch sliders.

          • fireboss

            Yes mostly because he can’t consistently locate the FB. They sit on his get me over slider and square it up

          • Mushy Peas

            Yeah, they catch on pretty quick.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Nate has made up pay often enough! NO!

  • fireboss

    Darvish taking a perfecto into the 7th

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Yeah I got the notificaion on my phone. He’s my pick for the CY this year

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Course he’s going to have to pick it up a touch.

        • fireboss

          so are the Rangers

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            haha

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Craig, forlorn

    • Mushy Peas

      Still think they should have traded him.

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Not many in that camp back then, but I was as well. Purely financial.

  • Mushy Peas

    Demon-eye Doumit

    • fireboss

      when he grows up he wants to be Gattis

  • Mushy Peas

    Take a walk demon eye

    • Mushy Peas

      Pinch run Schafer

      • Mushy Peas

        Nevermind

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch Pena

    • fireboss

      All Italians Off Grass

  • fireboss

    Darvish lost the perfecto to an error

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      He’ll get a steak dinner, and an R&T (let the reader interpret)

  • fireboss

    Woody on to pitch th 10th

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Guarantee you this move on Woody has upset our former staff writer to no end!

      • fireboss

        On yea

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          It hasn’t made me very happy either!

          • fireboss

            Yea but they don;t trust Avilan and there’s no lefty anywhere they do trust

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            They may not trust Avilan, but that sample size is misplaced. Yes, he’s hiccuped, but he has a lights out history. My philosophy is you have to trust your pitchers. His last session was solid.

          • fireboss

            he’s had much the same issue as Kimbrel no location go to curve get it hit

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Yeah he looked injured at times… that big looping, missing curve.

          • fireboss

            Looping and hanging waiting for banging

      • Mushy Peas

        Former? That Julien kid?

        • fireboss

          Yep

    • Mushy Peas

      Interesting. Kinda gives you an idea of the confidence in the offense putting in a long reliever essentially.

  • fireboss

    And a dying quail into right by the 3rd baseman whose name I am not trying to spell

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    I have a bad feeling

    • fireboss

      I had it when I saw Kimbrels fast ball make Gattis stand up and stretch

  • Mushy Peas

    Don’t understand why so many pitchers have bulked up over the off season.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      lack of education

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        and finesse

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          and locational command

    • fireboss

      In Woody’s case it was for endurance But I too feel they build the wrong muscles

  • Mushy Peas

    I’m going to stay optimistic. Baseball makes me happy and I can’t handle it when I start sinking into persistent pessimism.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      How about abject realism? ;-)

  • Mushy Peas

    Positive thoughts……….

    • fireboss

      I’m positive we need to end this in the bottom of this inning

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Chaos theory suggests that to win, you must try and lose. Few try it in baseball, but it works in physics labs.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          and in Aikido

          • fireboss

            Then we shoudl be ok Fredi tries to do that all the time

  • Mushy Peas

    A Brave would have swung at that pitch.

  • fireboss

    Coghlan up already? Sheesh

  • fireboss

    No chip I don’t

  • fireboss

    Darvish at 111 pitches and laboring

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      I thought he looked a little girly

      • fireboss

        You tell but wait till I have my video camera ready :)

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Reckon he lost his rosin?

    • Mushy Peas

      Is he fully dilated yet?

      • fireboss

        You’ll have to ask his midwife… err catcher

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Arrencibia catching him I suppose?

          • fireboss

            probably Soto still on DL

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Had forgotten that.