Jun 19, 2014; Washington, DC, USA; Atlanta Braves outfielder B.J. Upton (2) throws his bat after striking out during the game against the Washington Nationals at Nationals Park. Mandatory Credit: Evan Habeeb-USA TODAY Sports

Braves at Nationals: Live Thread and Rant


I’m not a big fan of B.J. Upton, and I make no apology at all for that.  Just like any other Atlanta Brave, when he’s playing either in the field or at the bat, I’m going to root for him to succeed, but the loyalty I have as a fan doesn’t get in the way of me wanting what I feel is best for this team.  Like any good fan, I get a bit miffed when my armchair management wisdom (or lack thereof) isn’t being heeded.

I know this is a Live Thread, but  pardon me while I rant for just a minute or two.
While the elder Upton has hit a little better this year than at anytime in his short time with the Atlanta Braves, he’s never done anything to impress me or done much to show clear signs of any significant turnaround.  Sure, he’s a decent outfielder, but his lack of ability with the bat, insistence on trying to hit like a power hitter, and his irksome tendency to argue obvious strikes are just too much for me.

 

The ONLY Reason?

I know he’s being paid too much, and so Frank Wren may feel an overwhelming desire to push this experiment to the limit, but in my opinion the time has clearly come and gone for B.J. Upton to show the Atlanta Braves some return on their investment.  I’m amazed that the fanbase can so easily dismiss Dan Uggla as a lost cause, while B.J. Upton continues to have, seemingly, a great deal of support from both the team and the fanbase.

For example, outside of a few games where Fredi Gonzalez had B.J. Upton sit the bench, he’s been pretty much a mainstay in the 2 hole all season long.  Why?  My goodness, why!?  He’s hitting a paltry .205, has no discipline at the plate, and no self-discipline either!

Even when Tommy La Stella was called up to replace Dan Uggla at 2nd, and began to tear the cover off the ball, I was amazed that he wasn’t a clear choice for the 2 hole. Now Tommy has been moved to the leadoff spot (which doesn’t bother me too much given that Jason Heyward has been moved down and is hitting well), but B.J. Upton remains almost permanently ensconced in the 2 hole, as if he were actually performing well enough to be there. I can only shake my head and wonder why.

Our own Jeff Schafer wrote an article with a poll this morning, asking the fan base what lineup you would have for the Atlanta Braves.  Looking at some early results from that, it’s clear that most of the voters so far would have B.J. Upton in either the 7 or the 8 hole (although Andrelton Simmons got most votes, and B.J. wouldn’t play at all based on votes). Personally, I want a little more prowess right before the pitcher bats, so I’d personally have B.J. in the 7 hole myself.

 

Despite My Objections

Of course I’m a realist, which means I’m well aware that no matter what we fans might want or see the need for, in the end it’s up to manager Fredi Gonzalez (translation Frank Wren?) who plays in that 2 hole, and checking MLB Lineups on Twitter for tonight’s game we can already see that B.J. Upton is strangely, or not so strangely, right back in that 2 hole.


 

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  • fireboss

    Anyway, back to the subject of my import.. would Kennedy be an uopgrade?

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      I replied below. Couple years ago I might have said no, but he has recently shown signs of showing some of his early, good form. I could live with such a trade, but he’d be a secondary option for me.

      • fireboss

        Yea unless we fix the BJ blowout bonanza pitching won’t help

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Yeah I agree. I just felt like the pitching would eventually implode, and personally, I would have kept Hale and Wood up, and it wouldv’e been floyd and harang relegated to the pen. Anyway, that’s just me.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    I’m not going to say it… but I almost want to say BJ could have caught that, if he hadn’t got turned around.

    • fireboss

      BJ took a bad route but that wasn’t his fault should never have given Rendone anything resembling a pitch to hit

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Yeah, definitely hung it.

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          And Rendon has lately decided it would be a good idea to start hitting as the deadline approaches

          • fireboss

            Rendon has been nothing but good for the Nats. I’ll take him

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Fister hasn’t been that good. We’ve just been terrible by comparison tonight.

    • fireboss

      Fister’s new to us and has a ton of movement all makes it bad for us

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        We lack patience. Something that has been a problem all year.

        • fireboss

          I’d be happy with Fister signing this off season. Nice fit for us

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Heck yes!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    We don’t even know the story behind what occured between Gattis and Julio. I hate conjecture! Wait til the post-game interviews!

  • fireboss

    Dumbest thing Williams can do is take Fister out, Please do that Matt

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      That’d be very Fredi-like.

      • fireboss

        Well Mattie isn’t a brain surgeon

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          If he managed like he played… well…

          • fireboss

            I’d love to trade Fredi for Bud Black

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            We make conjecture, but I always wonder how much FW micro-manages. Perhaps Fredi could be better if in fact FW does what we think he does. I don’t get the sense however, in interviews, that Fredi is all that smart.

          • fireboss

            Fredi’s issue isn’t intelligence it’s quickness. I’m fairly sure he knows baseball but his analysis and decision making take longer than a major league team can allow

          • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

            Well he wouldn’t be a manager in the big leagues if he didn’t know the game, but there are multiple options at any given moment, and I just think he often makes bad decisions, sometimes quickly :)

          • fireboss

            Those quick decisons are panic and not doing somethign in a similar spot a week before

  • fireboss

    NASTY HOOK

  • fireboss

    Wel here comes serve it up soriano, Let’s hope the bottom of the order can deliver

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    I already smell the beginnings of a series split.

    • fireboss

      yea likely

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        then again, who’s on the mound for the Gnats tomorrow?

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Oh, it won’t be an easy task against Roark, although if memory serves, we’ve served him up in previous outings.

        • fireboss

          Roark

  • fireboss

    I normally don;t judge people on their looks but Soriano is an ass

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Well, as you would say Fred, that’s a wrap. I’m out. Nite gentleman.

  • fireboss

    Night