Mar 17, 2014; Kissimmee, FL, USA; Fans sit in the rain during the game between the Houston Astros and the Atlanta Braves at Osceola County Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Rob Foldy-USA TODAY Sports

Braves at Astros: Live Thread And Rant!

My Endless B.J. Upton Rant

I recently went off on a rant in another Live Thread when the Atlanta Braves were playing the Washington Nationals, the gist of my rant my continual shock, surprise, and angst at the Braves’ decision to continue putting B.J. Upton in the 2 hole.  With his paltry performance, I don’t get it, cannot understand it, and see absolutely zero logic in the elder Upton being anywhere the first five holes in any lineup! I suppose Fredi Gonzalez listened to me, because ironically B.J. Upton isn’t in the 2 hole tonight as the Atlanta Braves travel to take on the Houston Astros.  Instead, the Braves have opted to put B.J. Upton in the leadoff spot.  I’m speechless! The word rant doesn’t do justice to my shock and anger with this move, and again I’m just baffled to find any logic in such a  move.

I love that tonight they have Tommy La Stella in the two hole where I’ve said he belongs since coming up, and I suppose that because Jason Heyward is doing so well in the 5 hole, it may make some sense to put a relatively speedy player like B.J. Upton at leadoff, but you generally hope to have a hitter that can actually get on base with some regularity in that spot.  B.J. Upton doesn’t fit the bill, so even though I’ve called for La Stella to be in the 2 hole, I’d keep him at leadoff and put the elder Upton somewhere down around 7 or 8.

Final Take

Oh well, I suppose I’m just a writer and editor, and not a major league manager.  Having coached baseball many years on the amateur level though, these moves manager Fredi Gonzalez is making are not moves I would EVER have made, in any league! I’ll stop my rant now, but I had to get that out.  You agree? No? Share your thoughts with us in our Live Thread tonight as the Braves start their series against the Houston Astros.

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  • Glen Morrow

    Let’s Go Braves , Best Stros and make a A%$ of them

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Was finishing up a little supper. I am here. Hopefully Harang-u-tang will be too :)

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Fred will be behind the Braves’ dugout somewhere, so look for the hot spot in the UV spectrum, or the shine off his bald head. :) LOL

    • Glen Morrow

      Might have to turn down the brightness on my tv if Fred behind the plate , so I can watch the game without a glare.

      • fireboss

        Rained all afternoon and the roof was closed so no glare to be intrusive. Tomorrow I’m, behind home plate. I’ll be the handsome guy to the left of home plate just above the club seats. Hope to have the phone charged this time so I can do more pic uploads.

  • Jeff Smith

    The Braves are in a difficult place when it comes to a leadoff hitter. They simply don’t have one. If BJ were more like the BJ in TB he would probably be the best option, though still not even then a proper 1 man. La Stella is definitely best at 2, he is perfect for a 2 man. No one else in the line up fits as a 1 man, not even Heyward. He needs to be driving in runs. I just can’t think of anyone and that’s probably Freddie’s dilemma. Perhaps Simmons as he mentioned but Simmons doesn’t really fit either. He’s hardly ever walks and doesn’t still a lot of bases. The best hope for this lineup to be solid top to bottom and well ordered is for BJ Upton to start getting on base. That’s really the ohly real solution we have for the No.1 slot problem. I don’t see it happening thus the only other solution is trade for someone or just live with the fact that we don’t have a number 1 hole guy.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      As I said in my rant, I would simply keep TLS at leadoff, perhaps Andrelton 2nd, and BJ 8th, or perhaps put Doumit in the outfield and bat him late, and keep BJ on the bench. I get Fredi is still trying to get BJ going, and I hope the experiment works, but it’s worrying at best.

    • Glen Morrow

      Well B.J sure not the solution at leadoff he can’t get one when he not in the leadoff , I am as big as Braves fan you will find but I have lost confidence in B.J after all how do you give a guy to start producing .

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        I think it’s the Frank Wren influence and embarassment. They invested a ton of $$ in BJ, and will do everything short of falling 6 games back of 1st to try and get him going. I get it, I just don’t like it. As you say, you need a contact hitter at leadoff, so perhaps BJ can get into that mindset.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Let’s get this party started quickly!

    • Glen Morrow

      Getting my Tomahawk arm loosed up and I am ready to go

  • Glen Morrow

    Well braves 2 games back of the Nats which is playing the Brewers tonight and Miami playing Phillies so we need to win this series sweep would be nice.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Hope the hot Brewers make the Gnats pay, and I think winning will be keeping Altuve off the bases.

  • Brandon_Woodworth

    I can’t defend this. BJ hasn’t done anything this month, sad, considering in May he looked to be striding back to his usual self.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Yeah it’s hard for me to defend it too. The only thing I can see is the Braves have paid him a ton and invested heavily, and as long as they are within reach of first, will do everything to try to get him going. If they can get his mindset to transition to hitting for contact and not power, he might feel more at home there. He’s leadoff in his career often. All that said, I’m very doubtful he will ever get going Brandon. I would put TLS at lead, play Doumit in the outfield, and sit BJ pesonally.

      • Brandon_Woodworth

        Putting Doumit in LF significantly decreases not only LF but RF defense, and the bat of Doumit comes no where close to making up for it. BJ in center is still the best option the team has.

  • Glen Morrow

    Same ole B.j same song

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      ~ Led Zeppelin

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Lemme get caught up. B.J., leading off for the first time in 14, grounds softly to short. TLS at at bat with 1 out in the top of 1.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Sounded a little like Freeman cracked his bat.

  • Glen Morrow

    ok yall could not resist this…lol

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      ??

  • Glen Morrow

    Aaron Orangatang

    • Glen Morrow

      hmmm my picture not showing on my side

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Pics sometimes just dont show. Disquis is temperamental

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Need to keep both Altuve and Springer off base all night. You do, you win.

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Oh well, so much for that thought!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Well, Harang gives up a solo shot to George Springer. Atlanta down 1-0, but it’s early.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Gattis will return the solo favor. Prediction

  • Glen Morrow

    Wtg Chis Johnson

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Sorry, I had to turn my attention to sending out an email to the divisions.

      • Glen Morrow

        Chris you know u can’t multi- Task …lol

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          hehe right, that’s why I’m a writer at two sites, and editor at two, and lead two whole divisions. I can’t multitask ;)

          • Glen Morrow

            lol

  • Glen Morrow

    BJ goes Deep Huh??????

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Sorry mini crisis I’m having to deal with in the divisions. I’ll get this solved and rejoin the thread soon.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    What did I say darnit! Keep Altuve OFF base!

  • Glen Morrow

    nice DP Braves

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    I’m back. What a mess!

    • Glen Morrow

      well at least your back

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Sorry bro.

  • Glen Morrow

    I thought Gattis got him one last inning .

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      I done missed like the last several innings! At least I see we’re up a run!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    I smell bacon

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      Oh that’s Glen’s armpits ;)

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Leave it to BJ to blow the chance.

    • Glen Morrow

      yeah and swung at the 1st pitch

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        how many hits does BJ have tonite…?

  • Glen Morrow

    need some runs Braves

  • Glen Morrow

    cubs pitcher has a perfect game in the 6th

    • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

      yeah that popped up on my smartest phone

      • Glen Morrow

        cough, cough…bull^^**lol

        • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

          Find me a faster phone. Overclocked, rooted, and a battery hugger. Boo Yah!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Well this thread appears dead, I shall try and hold on to the end, despite my weary and bleary eyes.

    • Glen Morrow

      I know no one seems to like our company

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        We had two commenters tonight beyond ourselves… that’s pretty good, and people come and read without commenting all the time.. I run the analytics.

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Release the (I hope he don’t blow it) Kimbrel!

    • Glen Morrow

      yeah no walks

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        I said on Twitter… Release the Kiimbrel? How about just a good release point!

  • Glen Morrow

    damn Pina

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Ive missed much of the game tonight… why the hell is TLS not at 2nd?

    • Glen Morrow

      Freddie put him in at the 9th for defensive purposes

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        There’s nothing wrong with TLS’ defense… he’s played well above what anyone expected, even though his defense was suspect as a minor leaguer, he has shown great defense at 2nd. Strange move.

        • Glen Morrow

          I know you can’t figure out Freddie

    • fireboss

      Because someone told Fredi once that Pena was a better defender. That hasn’t been the case but Fredi isn’t a quick study. He’ll keep doing it reflexively until someone tell him to stop

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    well I guess BJ did have a good nite at leadoff. Perhaps this will wake him up. In this, I don’t mind at all being wrong.

    • Glen Morrow

      Me neither but I will save my opinion till we play a better team

      • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

        Good and salient point!

  • http://www.tomahawktake.com/ Chris Headrick

    Well good nite Glen. Appreciate your hanging out. Sleep well. I’ve seen your face ;)

  • Glen Morrow

    Nite bud see ya Sunday