Jun 30, 2014; Boston, MA, USA; Boston Red Sox starting pitcher Jake Peavy (44) pitches during the first inning against the Chicago Cubs at Fenway Park. Mandatory Credit: Bob DeChiara-USA TODAY Sports

Atlanta Braves Trade Rumors a-Swirling!

T’is the season for Atlanta Braves trade rumors!

The Braves are known to be in the market for some upgrades, especially in regards to the bench and the bullpen.  However, the first juicy rumor that has the Braves’ name in it isn’t concerning either the bench or the bullpen.  Here it be…

Atlanta Braves interested in Boston Red Sox Jake Peavy

Here’s the scoop on Peavy this year…it ain’t pretty.  In 110.2 innings pitched,  Peavy has a 4.64 ERA, a 4.81 FIP (which suggests his peripherals aren’t even that good).  Everything that needs to be low are high (H/9, BB/9, HR/9), and everything that needs to be high are low (K/9, ERA, velocity… you get the picture). So, why Peavy?  Not sure.  Even his park adjusted ERA isn’t desirable. Peavy does reside in Braves’ country in the offseason (Semmes, AL) and the Braves are well-known to like players that reside in the south.

Regarding Braves’ interest in Jake Peavy, the Braves almost acquired Peavy back in 2008.  It’s no fun to think about, but if Peavy were to have been acquired, the Braves would’ve likely not had to sign Derek Lowe to a horrendous contract.  The significant loss for the Braves would’ve been Yunel Escobar who provided the Braves with exceptional value in both ’08 and ’09 before being traded for Alex Gonzalez in the middle of a horrid 2010, of which he became very unlikable by not only fans, but by teammates.  I remember the first game that Alex Gonzalez trotted out to shortstop for the Braves after the trade, the infield all stopped, took their gloves off, and clapped for him.  The next year, when Yunel came back to Atlanta, David O’Brien had some very…ummm, interesting things to say regarding Escobar’s departure.  You can read the entire article here, but here’s a snippet:

He was a petulant hot dog of a player who rubbed teammates wrong at least as frequently as he ticked off opponents.

But it didn’t happen and Yunel continued to piss Chipper Jones and the rest of the Braves off, and Peavy toed the mound for the Padres.  Peavy’s contract would have paid him 4 years/59 million, 1 million less than Derek Lowe.  During the life of the contracts, Peavy was worth 11.2 WAR. Lowe….7.3.  If it makes a difference to anyone, Yunel Escobar was worth 4.2 WAR, so it looks like the non-trade was essentially a wash anyway, as the imaginary shortstop that would’ve taken Yunel’s place is not known.

One fact I didn’t know about Peavy: without corrective lenses, he’s legally blind.  I find that absolutely fascinating for a Major League pitcher.

So, what’s the consensus?  All in favor, Yay.  All opposed, Nay.  What’ll it be?

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  • Matt Talbert

    No man…he’s not an upgrade over anything we have and we have close-to-value arms already in our own system. Pass (an easy one).

  • fireboss

    Agree with Matt, if we get an upgrade it should be an upgrade, that’s Hamels, Lester or Price. The FO is risk averse however after being maligned mostly in hindsight over the Teixeira trade. You either want to win and go for it or try to stay close and hope everyone else trips. You can decide what the Braves have decided to do so far.

  • jhawk1000

    If we’re going with the go big or go home argument- then what about Darvish? Texas is decimated with injuries this year and some might not return right away next season. What would it take to get him? We have quite a few young pitchers and some depth at catcher to deal from.

    • http://tomahawktake.com/ carpengui

      I like the thinking I’m seeing here. Darvish is a unique case. His actual contract is affordable, but the Rangers spent $50 on the posting fee, so that’s gonna be a problem. Additionally, Yu can *conditionally* opt out of his contract if he gets a Cy award in the next year or two, so trade partners really have no idea what they would be getting.. or for how long. So even if Texas wanted to deal him, there’s too many moving parts involved.

    • fireboss

      That my friend is a wonderfully outside the box idea. Darvish opt out (Alan mentions below) is in 2017 and based on finishing high in the Cy Young voting, He will and he will so there’s that. He makes only $11M from this point forward so he is affordable. He is an ACE, he led the AL with 277 strikeouts last year and at mid year he’s at 134 already. The Rangers would want Hursh or Sims as a start and I’d be okay one of them. Where it goes from there depends on what the Rangers see as their long term need. They have middle infielders but have been dangling Andrus and would like to move Profar back to SS. So maybe Gosselin’s good season convinces them he can play second. Ina bad contract for bad contract swap Alex Rios for BJ could make sense. Rios clearly hates Texas and Bj could use a new start. We’d have to add something for that extra BJ year. As bad a a year as Rios is having he’s still 303/333/438. They would likely ask for Bethancourt and depending on how the Braves view Gattis he could be expendable. However Stephen Lerude is a major league ready guy we have at Gwinnett who is a fine defensive catcher who will hit as well as Bethancourt so they may consider him. With a creative GM this could be a winner for both teams. But that’s not likely with our GM. He’s very conservative and stays well with the box. I’d like to see it but suspect it hasn’t even crossed his mind.

      • jhawk1000

        I had something like Minor, Hursh, Nothcraft and Gattis maybe for Darvish and Gallo coming back in mind. Now to add in Bj for Rios I would not be opposed to at all. That could be the kind of big time deal to inspire both teams. However you’re right about our GM, he does seem way to conservative for that kind of play.

        • fireboss

          I wrote about swapping Minor for Hamels but if we’re landing a righty I want to keep Mikey. If money wasn’t the issue Hurst, Northcraft, Lerude, Gosselin, BJ and CJ for Betkre, Darvish, Rios. Beltre fixes the lineup and Darvish the rotation. Move Jason to center. Justin to right and slot Rios into left. Rios hits leadoff and while he isn’t swift he is an 84.5% contact hitter and an 18.3 K% guy who is on base 33% of the time.. Won’t happen though, no imagination and not enough $$ while lacking the credibility to get permission to spend more which Liberty might well give considering all they have wrapped up in Cobb county.

  • DailyPlunge

    Team needs offense. Find someone who can field and hit RH pitching and platoon them at third with CJ.

    • fireboss

      Don’t see any left handed 3B out there so not sure who that might be. Eric Chavez if he could stay healthy might work, Valbuena form teh Cubs fits but they’ve said they’re hanging on to him. Cody Asche from the Phillies is probably available. Nothing I’ve seen indicates that Wren is thinking that way and he just extended CJ. It would have to be a utility guy like Prado or Zobrist but they are long shiots

      • DailyPlunge

        The Braves lineup is really bad. The pitching staff is in the top third of the league and the offense is one of the worst. CJ by WAR is one of the worst third basemen in the MLB. He gets hits, Ks a lot, doesn’t walk, can’t field, and can’t run. It’s actually shocking the Braves extended him.

        • fireboss

          It’s out of balance Ks to connect guys certainly and I agree CJ was a bad extend but as a follower of the Braves you’ll know that outside the box thinking isn’t what they do. Thsi front office is conservative and unwilling to admit error. If they can find a graceful exit from the contract they might do it but those have to be created by GMs like Dombrosky when he got Scherzer from the DBacks and coke + Jackson from the Yankees. While Wren worked under Dombrowsky and fancies himself that kind of trader he’s yet to actually do it. So while for example Valbuena would work getting him without looking like you screwed up extending CJ is hard to see him working out. As always I stand ready to be proven wrong but I’m not expecting it.

  • Ryan Cothran

    I’m essentially with all of you when it comes to Peavy, but if the Braves can get the Sox to pay most of his contract without us having to give up anything more than surplus pitching, I’d be ok with the move. If Peavy were to rebound, the Braves could have negotiation rights for 2015, and his offseason home is in Braves country.

    However, if they were to do this, I’d like to see the Braves buy-low on a few players off the Red Sox; Peavy and Drew. Drew could essentially be a super-utility. This only works if the Sox are willing to pay most, if not all, of their contracts. Highly unlikely.

    Another scenario could be if the Braves think Gattis will be ok, they could go out and get David Ross, Stephen Drew, Andrew Miller, and Jake Peavy for Bethancourt, Juan Jaime, and others. Pipedreams…pipedreams.

    Honestly, I think these are the trades that the Braves are going to have to venture into…buy-lows. There are many buy-lows on the Sox: Drew, Peavy, Ross, Pierzynski, Nava, Gomes, Bucholz, Bradley, Jr., and one buy-high the Braves need: Miller.

  • http://tomahawktake.com/ carpengui

    Kinda hoping that this Peavy info is a Red Herring.

  • Buz Livingston

    They need Miller more than Peavy.

  • DailyPlunge

    Has anyone reliable mentioned the Braves want Peavy?

    • http://tomahawktake.com/ carpengui

      Yeah… “The Braves are also involved in talks regarding Peavy, reports Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe.”… though while he’s reliable, the information seems to have been otherwise.

  • DailyPlunge

    FWIW David O’Brien at the AJC says the Braves aren’t interested in Peavy.

    • http://tomahawktake.com/ carpengui

      newest tweet: [lefty reliever] ‘Andrew Miller is the one they want.’ THAT makes perfectly good sense.

  • Ryan Cothran

    I know it’s been shot down a few times, but I’d still like to see the deck shuffled via the Minor League system before any big move is made. Moves I’d like to see made tomorrow:

    Send down Schlosser, call up Chasen Shreve.
    Designate Dan Uggla for assignment, call up Kyle Kubitza.

    Yes, still beating that dead horse, but I think Kyle could help in this stretch run. If he’s back in the Minors next year, so be it. If it doesn’t work? No harm. Make a move the last week before the deadline.

  • JASON TODD BARBER

    according to atlanta braves beat writer david o brien as recently as 10:19 this morning the braves had absolutely no interest whatsoever in JAKE PEAVY so this rumor is absolutely positively blatantly false, inaccurate and nowhere near true, if one is to believe o’brien,however i say the braves could be saying that because their number one target is david price and they just dont want anyone to know publicly that they are going after price …In other words the braves are using their disinterest in peavy as a potential smokescreen for price…However im not so sure id place any level of confidence in david o’brien because here lately when it comes to potential braves trade rumors and new acquistions hes been wrong more than hes been right …

    • fireboss

      This piece was posted about 10 PM last night. There is a follow on piece fron Ryan posted this morning that quotes Bowman and the Braves as denying it. There’s two chances Price becomes a Brave; slim and none. I believe I just saw Slim leave town.

      • JASON TODD BARBER

        mind u i never said for sure that the braves would get price i just mentioned the fact that its a possiblilty they were using their disinterest as a smokescreen to offset the possibility of being interested in price